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Occupy Sydney is the dream of a few men and women who have come together at this time because they are sick and tired of the way they are being shafted and stabbed in the back at almost every level of Government.

125 Responses to About Us

  1. Luke on October 10, 2011 at 7:25 am

    We have to take action! WE have to rise up against this so called Governments! Get this website going!

    • Ben on October 26, 2011 at 10:24 am

      I have an idea. Get off your arses, get a job, make a budget, don’t buy all the latest technology out there (eg every time a new iPhone comes out) and only buy what you need, not what you want.
      You filthy hippees!

      • OscarSierra on October 28, 2011 at 2:47 am

        Very informative, I have a job thank you very much and whilst I tend not to think much of hippies I am actually finding some have comments and opinions that actually do make sense and which are useful, unlike yours, as you will find if you look a little further into what is and what Is not happening, some of those in the Occupy Movement have actually taken time off of work and holiday leave to attend. There are numbers of people in this movement who have lost their jobs due to the GFC and there are those who probably never had one and will be content on living on Government hand outs. At the end of day it takes all walks of life to send a message that the system is broken and it’s about time someone fixed it before it implodes as a result of gross mismanagement by a few lunatics. So if you think the current system is fine enjoy your Superannuation as it disappears into the abyss, and I hope that works out for you.

        • David on November 9, 2011 at 1:33 pm

          So why arent you protesting against the government and its tax on carbon dioxide? It was a scheme created by Goldman sachs! Oh yea,and isnt.org a government funded website? Im not sure..just sayin!

          • Mina on November 28, 2011 at 11:17 am

            Are you serious? “.org” is and ORGanisation. Whereas “.gov” is a GOVernment funded website.

      • Anne on November 6, 2011 at 12:33 pm

        Ben … I take great offence at calling these people filthy hippies. I believe what they do and I could not be further from your description. You show your ignorance and blindness by your comments.

      • Corey on November 19, 2011 at 10:07 am

        How TYPICAL…Stereotypical view of someone who cannot think outside the current political structure and cannot see a part from what is spoon fed from media opinions and TV..You are why the world is STUFFED..Arrogant, ignorant stupid peoiple that cannot think apart from WHAT THEY ARE TOLD TO THINK….

    • John Ingram on October 26, 2011 at 11:39 am

      Would you like to tell us which government you are unhappy with. Is it the Federal Labor Government or the State Liberal Government or perhaps its the Sydney council??

      • OscarSierra on October 28, 2011 at 2:28 am

        A & C and anyone else who wants to promote ICLEI, Agenda 21, the subversion of property rights, the re-writing of history, government interference where it’s not needed or a Carbon Tax. I’ll start on B if they want to drop nuclear waste in the middle of Sydney too.

    • Ozze_dollar on October 26, 2011 at 11:50 am

      Which Government????

      • Ozze_dollar on October 26, 2011 at 11:51 am

        I am starting to realise some of the posters here dont even know there is more than one Government!!!

        • OscarSierra on October 28, 2011 at 2:19 am

          LoL

          • Jeff Gordon on November 11, 2011 at 4:40 am

            Does anyone remember the last federal election when Australians where fed up with liberals and Labor and voted in the Independents,what happened then? 3 went to labor and 3 went to liberals.
            So who has the power? the Governments or the corporates,banks brag about their 2 billion dollars a year profit,if each bank and corporate company donated a million dollars of their profits it could get the real homeless of the streets and into their own homes that would sought out the sheep from the goats,the ones left on the streets would be those who are happy being there.

    • Ozze_dollar on October 26, 2011 at 12:19 pm

      This page is about us…..Who are you???
      Doesnt the group have a management team.
      Are we expected to join a faceless group???

      • OscarSierra on October 28, 2011 at 2:00 am

        No one is asking you to join anything. You are either interested with the commentary or the posts, or you have the opportunity to argue a case for what you would like to put forward. No one is making you come here. We disseminate what we will and we are not run by committees. You are welcome to contribute what you wish providing it is useful and respectful.

    • David on November 9, 2011 at 1:50 pm

      so have you guys followed the money trail back to who started and funds the “occupy” rallies? Maybe you should take a very close look at George Soros! Maybe you should do your homework on the centre for American progress,and the tides foundation and look into it a bit…yes we have a problem,but its not what you think it is! You guys are being used like puppets.The problem we have is that this whole thing is purpose driven by the left to bring down capitalism.Im talking about the whole thing,gfc is all purpose driven! The new world order is upon us and you guys are cheering it on with our Marxist freaks in government!

    • Jesus on January 21, 2012 at 3:23 am

      Godamn hippies!!

    • Shaun Hart on April 27, 2012 at 4:22 am

      Just an FYI for anyone who cares. I recently made some lengthy comments on this particular movement’s facebook page. I was simply making civil, constructive debate about ideas for societal governance. I used no foul language or insulting statements. I was banned, silenced and my posts, which contained no objectionable material whatsoever, were hidden from view. I was repeatedly called a “Zeitgeister”, despite my objection to that label and movement. I find it ironic that a portion of my discussion with another poster just before I was silenced was about the issue of censorship. lol

      Either way, if the people who operate this site are the same as the person who banned me from the page, I don’t expect this post to remain visible for long. If someone “objectively awake” does happen to read this, now you are aware of the activities being undertaken by the admin of this movement’s facebook page.

      • OscarSierra on May 5, 2012 at 3:54 am

        Mate,

        Those of us who administer this site, have been Sorting out some extreme issues with the site, and external factors. We have been a little behind in our upkeep of the site and it’s amelioration. We will be trying to keep on top of things a little better in future, however, receiving over 200 messages a day which we try and vett is a huge task and we will get on top of it when we can. Your complaint has been noted and over the next couple of days we shall endeavor to get to the bottom of it,

        Cheers.

        P.S Zeitgeist is a formal for the ruination of not only Australia but the world as a whole, the Zeitgeist Movement is misguided and more will revealed I time.

  2. Barry Kennedy on October 10, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    I agree with the idea that the system(economic – capitalist) is broken and needs repair however if you hope to attack this idea articulately so that there is a possibility of getting some change happening then you better adjust your cry to action. “because they are sick and tired of the way they are being stabbed in the back by almost every level of government” is a very poor cry to action.

    • PAB on October 11, 2011 at 2:56 am

      i agree but also think that with money there will always be corruption so maaybe it’s time for some real revolutionary thinking

      • Mark Cist on October 15, 2011 at 6:02 am

        Excellent. I’ll help design the T-shirt.

        • peter on October 26, 2011 at 7:02 pm

          Someone really needs to start talking about the federal reserve bank and start investigating what it does you’ll will be in much surprise to know it is privately own and holds no reserves amongs other things END THE FED!!! Ron Paul 2012!

    • frank on October 16, 2011 at 5:53 am

      I agree with Barry, calls of bring down the government will only serve the power we are trying to stop (unchecked corporate greed). ending or servearly limiting the power of cooperation’s is a message that all people can rally behind if we get bogged down with specific ideologues regardless of what they are we will never garner the support we need to change what is required and lets be realistic hear if we what to achieve lasting and systematic change then it would require broad based public support and I mean very broad at least 33% and you are not going to get that by asking people to rise up dismantle the government
      more so it will give the mainstream media the ability to debunk or speed misinformation about what the goals of this movement should be.

  3. ETR on October 10, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    Hey fellow revolutionaries. When is this protest going to begin? I am on annual leave from my corporate job and I do not intend to return. Lets get this show on the road shall we?

    • Camille on October 18, 2011 at 5:00 am

      I’m with you. I have just finished a two year stint as a consultant to the federal government, and I do not want to ever experience the waste and ineptitude I saw there again. We all need to take a big step up to bat, but the cries of ‘down with the government’ are dumb, divisive and very inarticulate. What this movement needs in Australia are some regular people, with jobs, suits, vocabularies and connections, to stand at the front and articulate the muddle of ideas gnawing away at everyone’s soul. We all know that the 99% thing is true. We all know that we live in a culture where conformity and corporate exploitation wins out over creativity and exploration. We all know that unless you subscribe to the status quo ideals of mortgage, job, car and lifetime super, then you are considered an outsider. We all know that the most creative, energetic and ingenious people are often the most marginalised and spend their lives working for minimum wages in hospitality or worse just to survive. ITS TIME TO SHIFT THE EMPHASIS OF OUR CULTURE FROM CORPORATE TO CREATIVE. Governments and structures can stay, but make them totally and completely accountable to a mix of independent observers- to include, ensure and re-emphasise the arts, philosophy, self-knowledge, equality, environmental and social responsibility and a sense of community. in all decisions made at corporate level. More women on boards, more community members on boards, independent bodies to which all political parties must answer for decisions made on behalf of the electorate, proper taxes for the top 1% instead of massive tax loopholes and shelters, and a complete overhaul of wages and salaries right across the entire economy. No more working poor. No more enslaved suburban masses. No more egotistical elite. That;’s a start I reckon.

      • Mark J MacNamara on October 21, 2011 at 10:04 pm

        agreed on one point – there is urgent need for public sector reform because they’re being ripped off left right and centre by private consultancies who think it’s their right to use any means necessary, dishonest or otherwise, to claw back the taxes they resent having to pay.

        • Ozze_dollar on October 26, 2011 at 11:41 am

          They use the consultants because they dont trust the public servants to do anything properly.

          • OscarSierra on October 28, 2011 at 2:24 am

            Good point.

      • Ruth on October 23, 2011 at 5:08 pm

        Camille that was fantastic and the first well spoken and informative ‘speech’ i have heard on this topic so far. As i have been anti-tv for quite some time, i have not had any access to information on what’s behind this Occupy movement and am only jumping on the bandwagon to find out about it now.
        The internet is riddled with confusion and sentiments, most of which are from other people who have no sense of the purpose of ‘Occupy’ and are merely reacting to the media’s version of events.
        Hope you don’t mind if i quote you?!
        This statement you made really stands out for me : “What this movement needs in Australia are some regular people, with jobs, suits, vocabulary and connections, to stand at the front and articulate the muddle of ideas gnawing away at everyone’s soul.” Well said.

        • Joe on October 26, 2011 at 10:12 pm

          This whole thing is so stupid. The mass can not control public assets! It’s as simple as that.

          A group of people need to control public assets. The same people need to get paid a lot of money and once they do, try getting them to leave! What do you know? The people you elected are now the greedy suits on a power trip.

          You can argue otherwise all day. But I’m pretty sure 21,874,900 conflicting opinions will cause one hell of a shit-storm.

          Before you go and protest…at least think about what your fighting for.

      • Michael on October 27, 2011 at 12:06 pm

        LOL. “We all know that unless you subscribe to the status quo ideals of mortgage, job, car and lifetime super, then you are considered an outsider. We all know that the most creative, energetic and ingenious people are often the most marginalised and spend their lives working for minimum wages in hospitality or worse just to survive.”

        What are you on? I have been a creative, non conformist since I was a kid and am doing quite well thanks. I have had awards in scientific conventions, my music as soundtracks in films, a book published. I only once worked in retail, not in hospitality.

  4. PAB on October 11, 2011 at 2:54 am

    Hello fellow brothers and sisters, please give me a date time and place and i will be there with my revolutionary bells on. Time these freeloading banking families fell!!! Just remember they want us to get violent so stay smart and orderly and lets change the world for us and our children

    • ETR on October 11, 2011 at 7:51 am

      Saturday the 15th or Monday the 17th are the suggested gathering times. This is an occupation however so we expect it to last weeks. Come as often and for as long as you can.

    • peter on November 1, 2011 at 12:39 pm

      I agree with PAB, sounds like he knows too well, that with any violence, it allows the government to take our civil liberties away, in the same way they use the ongoing threat of terrorism and consumerist fear. Lets speak and change with conviction.
      Look up Trevor Rowe – interesting stuff

  5. Patrick Lavilles on October 11, 2011 at 4:12 am

    viva la revolucion!

    • Mark J MacNamara on October 21, 2011 at 10:05 pm

      get ****ing original, coz you’re turning this ‘movement’ into the historical nothingness it probably deserves

      • OscarSierra on October 22, 2011 at 9:34 am

        Everyone deserves a chance.

        Foul Language on a forum, where children are likely to come is NOT acceptable. As some of what you have said, is either valid, or has a point, I have bothered to edit Mark.

        It will not happen again. I understand your frustration, but flaming, and foul language will not be tolerated here. If you would not say it to your grand mother do not say it here. I would be happy to clock you if you said it to mine, I am sure she would before I had a chance. Children are likely to visit, and they do not need to be exposed to more than that which they are already today.

  6. Lilyana on October 11, 2011 at 8:06 am

    Modern ‘democracy’ is worlds removed from the original concept. It is supposed to be “a form of government in which ALL people have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives.” – The word ‘government’ is derived from the Latin verb gubernare, an infinitive meaning ‘to manage’.

    However, unless the country’s management runs referendums (eg.Switzerland), we most definitely don’t have any say, except in choosing the puppet which is going to supposedly ‘represent’ us.

    How naive are we to be sold on empty promises, time after time. The political party makes no difference – each simply tailors their blatant lies to a select group of people, bamboozling the masses with what they want to hear until they get to where they can wield their greed.

    Needless to say, there is absolutely no intention of up-keeping any promises that don’t serve the big corporates, since politicians serve those that ‘sponsor’ them into governing positions, NOT the interests of the people who voted them into those.

    What is really distressing is that the machinations of the big corporates are for short-term gain which is at the expense of long-term sustainability.

    Needless to say, this country is being grossly mismanaged! The only way to resolve this problem is to create a new system (or at least one that upholds true democracy).

    Buckminster Fuller [(July 12, 1895 – July 1, 1983), architect, author, philosopher, futurist, inventor, visionary] summed it superbly:

    “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”

    • One Consciousness on October 13, 2011 at 12:48 am

      “You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”—->If everyone on this forum and including prospective supporters of the Occupy Movement are truly courageous and compassionate, both intellectually & spiritually, then, band together and create a new government wherein the guiding principle for managing the livelihood and resources of its supporters are based on influencing and inspiring actions that promote united consciousness.

      • Jim on October 14, 2011 at 11:11 pm

        Let us not “create a new government”.Let us live as men and women under the law of living men and women of the land and tell all governance to stop treating us as dead corporations under corporations law.

      • Vivienne on October 23, 2011 at 6:31 pm

        I was interested to hear of your actions and agree with One Consciousness that real change does not come from ‘fighting’ because fighting causes destruction not positive harmony.
        Also many years ago I started to build a ‘new model’ and in the process as I worked with different cultures around the world I suffered much abuse, attack, persecution even attempted murder as I worked on a Gaia or Mother Earth Peace framework. In Corporations and Government as a Change Consultant I was also often abused and destroyed by those corrupt I had been sent in to ‘clean up’. Life became very difficult and those corrupt begin smear campaigns and xenophobic activities.
        This is long but I want to remind you that having governance or control – is a natural way of mankind. Man is quite primitive in Gaia theory does not look at his mutual dependence but thinks himself superior to other organisms. This is his downfall. One on top is always replaced by another. Without a ‘new model’ you cannot replace with something more sustainable and in harmony. Remember Gandhi had a culture of 200 million followers because they were desperate and did not care to live or die. This does not necessarily work in a western country as the media will just subvert the attention and the government will find ways to ban the activity. But what is in our law already is human rights and governments have to account to their citizens in democracy. We vote the people who run governments – so really it is up to us to let them know ‘how’ we really want them to run it.
        Good luck in a new way forward. Survival of Earth inhabitants needs the primitive nature of mankind to wake up and take responsiblity now not later.

        • OscarSierra on October 28, 2011 at 2:16 am

          I also agree, fighting will get you nowhere and we in no way endorse nor will we be associated with any violence directed from or to any party.

          This is a violence free zone if you like and that may as well be a warning to those persons who continue to post comments apropos “Taking on the Police and / or creating a revolution” and inclusive of YouTube videos on how to build incendiary devices. Rest assured those comments will be filtered from this web page. I do not like to moderate comments but anything destructive or combative in nature will just be trashed and I have no problem with providing IP addresses to the Counter Terrorism section of the Federal Police or directly to State Police depending on the content of the comment.

          If those of you out there who want a War against the state think you will win, you are obviously deluded and in need of help, I am happy to accommodate that help in the form of ensuring you get that from the appropriate police service responsible for providing it.

    • Liz Anderson on October 21, 2011 at 5:06 am

      You’re right. I have been thinking for some time that the two party westminster system has to go. it does not lead to good management it leads to bickering and short sighted decision makin(g based too often on a fear of losing power. Lets try to think of a new system . Liz anderson.

      • Cam on October 25, 2011 at 1:29 am

        Very Simple: Give the power back to the people via internet voting.

        We live in the age of the internet and SMS. So called-representatives, each travelling all the way to Canberra to in loo of hundreds of thousands of constituants IS an outdated system. It was fine in 1901 when a wind-up telephone was a luxury appliance, but in this day and age just about everybody has the means to send an electronic “yay” or “nay” to the capital in the blink of an eye.

        Why should we have to sit and watch our MPs casting the votes of everyone in our electorate in parliament? Why should we ever have to watch a politician who supposedly represents *US*, voting for a policy we staunchly oppose? When technology makes it possible for us to have a system where nearly all of those people could log in to parliament house and cast our own individual vote ourselves?

        Instead of every new law that comes up for vote in parliament being decided beetween 150 politician votes, it should be decided by 21,000,000 CITIZEN votes. MPs start with a pool of votes equal to the number of people in their electorate. But every time a registered voter from their electorate logs in and casts that vote themselves, that vote is removed from the MPs pool. The MP is only left with the votes of people who either don’t care about the issue, or who trust their MP. Yay or nay, whichever has the most votes wins.

        This system is fair, democratic, very difficult to corrupt and, most importantly, it makes Gerry Harvey and James Packer put together no more powerful than Bob the janitor and his wife.

        • Srajane on October 26, 2011 at 4:09 pm

          After reading some of the comments in various places and shaking my head thinking ‘if this is the representation this movement has then were not going to get anywhere’ I have to say your insight and understanding gives me rekindled faith in the people’s ability to not only identify a problem (which we know LOTS of people can do) but also to SOLVE said problem, the much more important of these two.

          Thank you

    • Ozze_dollar on October 26, 2011 at 11:45 am

      I fully agree ,this country is grossly mismanaged. Never mind in two years we will get a new government and things will come good again. Dont expect them to do it overnight,you know they have racked up hundreds of billions in debt.

      • OscarSierra on October 28, 2011 at 2:24 am

        Gillard, Rudd, Turnbull, Swan, Brown, Hanson-Young, Milne, Brandt, Wilkie, Oakeshott and Windsor have to go. The sooner we get rid of them, the sooner we can get back to having a country that can actually think for itself without being a puppet for Obama.

  7. Jack on October 11, 2011 at 8:54 am

    So we all walk into Sydney on a Saturday and the government will decide to call it a day? great plan! Maybe you could offer everyone a free hat to seal the deal! Or even better, you could actually form a position on some issues and protest SOMETHING, just a thought.

  8. Cr@ck on October 11, 2011 at 9:50 am

    I’m getting back to Sydney Saturday evening, I’ll come in and hope shit’s still happening. And I’m happy to be in on Monday as well.

  9. Occupy Together on October 11, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    Occupy Sydney is the international support of Occupy Wall Street. It represents the 99% of the population that condemns the greed of Banksters, the corporatisation of the state, and the need for equality at all levels of society – not the power, control and wealth of the 1%. Australia is a close partner to the USA, and therefore the demands of Occupy Wall Street become Australia’s demands, lest Australia becomes as morally and financially poor and bankrupt as the USA, and those countries who are debt-ridden as a result of the corporate greed represented by Wall Street and City of London.

    • Mark J MacNamara on October 21, 2011 at 10:09 pm

      the message is right, but there’s something in the way it’s articulated that futilitises what you’re trying to say.

  10. alice on October 12, 2011 at 8:33 am

    Clearly the capitalist and neoliberal systems need desperate regulation, but make this a day of peaceful advocacy for initiatives like the ‘Robin Hood Tax’. This still needs civic support before it will be discussed seriously at the G20 summit. Go to the Oxfam website to learn more about this tax on banks, hedge funds and other finance institutions.

    If you are interested in civic responsibility, then support the carbon tax, don’t dump the Gillard government in with past disappointing governments. They are actively working for social and environmental changes. Just because you don’t hear about it in the Murdock or Packard media doesn’t mean it’s not happening.
    So let’s make Occupy Sydney an opportunity to show that the Australian people support alternatives to and regulation of neoliberalism and capitalism. We support taxes on corporations who sell our minerals overseas and don’t give us the profits, we support taxes on financial corporations who benefit from society and who give nothing back.

    And remember that the point of public protest is to win the support of people, not to alienate them. People are drawn to the hope and promise of change, not to hatred and anger. Hatred and anger are the last resort for a people without hope and in Australia we have a government that support environmental protection and social equality.

    - I’ve witnessed first hand the power of ideas, I’ve seen people kill in the name of them, and die defending them… but you cannot kiss an idea, cannot touch it, or hold it… ideas do not bleed, they do not feel pain, they do not love… EVEY

    • OscarSierra on October 12, 2011 at 8:54 am

      Alienate people? Alice you menion the “Carbon Tax” which quite clearly 3/4′s of every poll taken acrosss this nation proves that the overiding majority of this country do not want, whether you agree with it or not, thus Gillard who you just mentioned has alienated the over all majority of voters to the extent of denying any opposition whether it be by concerned citizen or scientisits. Let us not forget the amount of misinformation, indoctrination blatent scare mongering and lies. So if you want to play the “Alienation Card” I suggest you have a good look at what you discern personally that alienation is, because Gillard has done nothing less worse than the major players that Occupy Sydney stand firm against, and in fact she and her minority caretaker government, are the problem, she and her gutless guild of fabians are the problem. Take a look at eugenics and agenda 21. If that is what you want to stand for, I wont be backing you up. The oligarchical elite just love Gillard and Obama, that is why they have no problem funding them, as they are simply puppets who can manipulate masses and fund the UN.

      • Andy on October 13, 2011 at 10:52 am

        OMG. Who cares about the totally bogus Packer-controlled POLLS?? You’re so brainwashed by the right-wing media, I think it’s too late for you to think for yourself. QUESTION THE MEDIA – don’t swallow their crap. HELLO!…the MAJORITY of the world’s scientists agree that climate change/global warming is REAL. GET THAT INTO YOUR THICK SKULL. And I would trust Gillard and the Labor government to run this country over the selfish WEASELS who are the Liberal Party, ANYDAY.

        • OscarSierra on October 13, 2011 at 10:59 am

          Who is brain washed ? You may well need a rinse.

    • ali baba on October 13, 2011 at 1:00 pm

      ,, We have a Government that supports social equality ” are you deluded sweetie ? or do you live in Double bay or Bellevue Hill ?
      45% of the wealth of this country goes to less than 5% of the population , 200 000 people are on a waiting lists for public housing, over 3 million people can’t afford dental care , thousends are homeless , the mentally ill roam the streets because apparently there is no money left after the Banksters and Corporations take their cut of the GDP pie..and THEY keep telling you on TV that we live in the best country in the world ! Keep watching The Footy Show , it’s all the info you’ll need..

      • OscarSierra on October 13, 2011 at 1:16 pm

        Well said ! Alice needs to take a walk, two streets back from Cowper Wharf Road, and see for herself !

        Yes we can house and feed, and pay Serco the gap between tax free. and some forsaken price on cigarettes for unlawful arrivals. We can provide those unauthorised arrivals with free medical and dental.

        We can remove Australian Citizens receiving pro-bono health care in private hospitals in this country, and send them on their way to the public system, so that those beds can be used by unauthorised arrivals.

        We can allow the detention centers to become bona fide drug smuggling money and laundering factories.

        But we won’t feed, nor house, nor represent our own.

        Yup, Gillard, Labor, brilliant effort!

        • Tegan on October 25, 2011 at 3:08 pm

          What a racist xenophobic comment which has absolutely nothing to do with the Occupy movement. You people who are so concerned with the cause need to bone up on what it really is about.

          It’s about not shafting those who are marginilised. It’s about caring for one another. It’s about putting forward values other than capitalisation. It’s about making governments and businesses accountable.

          Keep these kinds of comments to yourself. They only go show that you are a selfish person which only degrades the Occupy message which seems to be getting mixed up with that of entitlement.

          • OscarSierra on October 25, 2011 at 5:33 pm

            Ahhh the Socialist Alliance Card straight up! I half expected that two comments back. Have you ever been down to Woolloomooloo?

            Back streets of Nortbridge or Port Adelaide or Port Melbourne or any other city?

            Ever helped feed those who cannot feed themselves ?

            You can call a cow a chicken Tegan, it will not lay any eggs for your breakfast.

            I could feel your restraint and expected that childish outburst earlier but I guess calling me a xenophobic, and a racist made you feel better.

            Ever seen an unauthorised arrival?

            Ever had to watch your friends being blown up by them?

            Ever had to rescue them?

            So easy to shout the usual socialist slurs when you know nothing of your opponent (which you decided that was what I am when you called me names like a primary school kid).

            I spent most my early childhood and teenage years being bullied because of the name my grandfather (who came here with his parents by boat) past on to my father and he onto me.

            Do not presume to know me, or categorize me with a slur whence you have no clue what or who I am.

            Now I do not recall calling you an ‘ist or a ‘phobic at all. Hence I will take your patetic outburst for what it was, meaningless and nothing more than a bully tactic I learned how to deal with years ago.

            Grow up and go to bully school to learn how to do it successfully.

          • tegan on October 25, 2011 at 9:24 pm

            Oscar, I’m sorry that you were bullied at school, and I’m sorry that you perceived me to be bullying you. I didn’t actually call you racist or xenophobic but that comment certainly came across as such. Maybe it was just your wording and my interpretation.

            If you re-read my comment I think you’ll see that the point of it was that as far as I can tell your comment is off the topic and does not serve to further the Occupy (insert city) cause.

            Then again I’m still trying to work out what the cause of Occupy Sydney is. It doesn’t seem to have any focus. Anyway, I hope people who have ideas on how the country should be run make an effort to get educated on it all and work towards making positive changes in a constructive way.

    • Philistine on October 20, 2011 at 5:31 am

      “We support taxes on corporations who sell our minerals overseas and don’t give us the profits”

      So BHP which is 60% australian owned but only has 50% of its assets in Australia won’t fall under this?

  11. Aleta on October 12, 2011 at 11:05 am

    I like the admission; Occupy Sydney is the dream of a FEW men and women” – yeah the same dropkick bludger dope smoking idiots that attend Socialist Alliance meetings – must be up to 10 of them.

    • OscarSierra on October 12, 2011 at 12:38 pm

      Never been to a socialist alliance meeting, never will, thus wrong.

      I work for a living, thus wrong again.

      I don’t smoke nor take illegal drugs in anyway or shape or from, hence that’s a hat-trick

    • Cam on October 25, 2011 at 1:09 am

      All great things start off as just the vision of one or a few people.

      I’m not saying I support this cause at all, I’m just saying humble origins don’t make something bad. If this movement is a bad thing, it will fail in time.

  12. Devon on October 14, 2011 at 3:43 am

    Jesus christ you people are completely retarded

  13. Allan D. Coop on October 14, 2011 at 4:54 am

    So what happened at 11:05am October 12??

  14. proper on October 14, 2011 at 9:46 am

    The soul purpose of a government is to overlook the harmonious flow of nature – Dr Masaaki Hatsumi

  15. Agree with Devon on October 15, 2011 at 2:42 am

    This OccupySydney site is so far off the mark it’s not funny. If you affiliate yourself with the action occuring today, you diminish the intended message.

    Get over your conspiracy theory bollocks and focus on being one of the 99%.

    • emma on October 15, 2011 at 3:42 am

      i agree with devon!!!!!!!!!! if you think ‘unauthorised arrivals’ are the enemy you are wrong! most of the conspiracy theory bullshit on here is just the thing to distract from the real crimes…….. like the massive wars we are in, ruining afghanistan for $$$ and you persecute those who flee! people like alex jones are puppets, to make you look stupid, and it is working!

  16. Lars on October 15, 2011 at 7:21 am

    Oh sweet, another dumb ass excuse for people in Guy Fawkes masks to congregate and feel accepted instead of being called ‘weird’ as is with most points in their life. Shit’s going to be off the chain.

    • SKunkRunner on October 15, 2011 at 3:03 pm

      Rent A Crowd FTW…I agree with the American Cause, their system is broke, I agree with the idea of removing the fascicle central banking system…But Were fed in Australia, our system isnt broke.While the majority is fed well it wont kick off here

  17. Ben on October 18, 2011 at 11:13 am

    I need a space to breath. I need to be able to wake up every morning without having to worry about financial instability and job instability. I need to be able to live not for paying bills but for enjoying my work to enjoy my life.

    Is this movement about this? If yes, I am in.

    • Dushka on October 25, 2011 at 12:57 pm

      Wow. Really? Then you either need to be 5 again and have mum and dad look after you, or you need to CREATE a job that fulfils you where you are your own boss.

      Without work, there is no money. Without money, there are no taxes. Without taxes, there is no welfare. No roads, no hospitals, no pension. No taxes means people who want things handed to them so that they can “breathe”, will starve.

      • Cam on October 25, 2011 at 8:31 pm

        You talk as if starving is automatically a bad thing. I’ll admit that there are much quicker, less painful ways to go, and I’ll admit that one rarely comes upon those by chance.

        But what is the point of continuing a life of working to continue living, if that life doesn’t offer you overall happiness?

        “I need to be able to live not for paying bills but for enjoying my work to enjoy my life.” – Well said. This needs to become the key principal of the work-life cycle. We need a society where we work primarily for personal contentment, if not selflessly for providing contentment to those who desperately need it, or those we genuinely admire and adore. Perpetuating the cycle has to be a secondary or lower concern.

        Otherwise, what’s the point? The reaper’s gonna catch up with us all eventually. Why keep running away if all that’s gonna do is make us sore, tired and bitter?

        • Dushka on October 25, 2011 at 10:45 pm

          Hence my comment “….or you need to CREATE a job that fulfils you …”

          There is no one stopping you from working in a field that you love, but yourself.

          So if you are working in a job you hate just to pay the bills, then get off your bottom and change it!

          You don’t need a social ideological shift to achieve that.

          Best yet, you are under absolutely no obligation to “perpetuate the cycle”. You are perfectly free to live outside of mainstream society. There are heaps of great alternate communities out there that thrive on co-operative living. Several have been going strong for over 70 years.

          But you need to understand something. The vast majority of people WANT this mainstream life.

          The change needed is revolutionary, but not in the way you think. What’s needed is an accountable, honourable, intelligent government that works solely for the people of THIS country.

          From that core of strength, many things become possible.

  18. Joseph on October 20, 2011 at 3:03 am

    I would like to express my appreciation to all who are protesting.
    We have gotten to a point in our society where we can see that our system which serves us, is no longer apt for the function it was designed for; instead this has turned into a system of greed and corruption which is all primarily based on fear and materialism.

    What we need is a system that serves real equality for the people of the world, a system that is personal not impersonal. A system where no persons opinion is lesser due to a certain status.

    I will fight for my rights, and my childrens rights on this planet, and I refuse to;
    Eat the genetically modified foods they are trying to feed us.
    Take the poisons they are so willing to give to us.
    Drink the water that is affecting the global populations brain function.
    Pay off a debt in which I never agreed to.
    Be a discriminated, alienated gay member of society.
    To function within the rules and regulations that the state made for what they think are my ‘best interests’.
    To fund the values of any religion or for profit organisation that does not have the best interests of humanity AS A WHOLE.

    We as a human family are to get along and love one another if we are truly to experience this beautiful planet that was given to us. This is the only way in which the human race will reach its full potential.

    It is an astonishing feat that we as a people can stand up to the sysyem in which we created and challenge its very purpose. What we need to do is be strong in these times and be a people that inspire and protect one another to ensure that we are no longer raped by a system that no longer serves us as people but we serve the system as slaves.

  19. Philistine on October 20, 2011 at 5:18 am

    I’ve been trying to work out what exactly you are protesting about.

    In Australia particularly. I still only have a vauge notion.

    So I deciced to ask people I know of various political stripes about what they though you were on about. The resonses ranged from “No idea, end to sweatshop labour, and end to too big to fail, world peace and a pony for everyone”

    Oh and many people found the image of a few dozen people claiming to be “the 99%” amusing. “They look more like the 0.0001%” was one comment.

    • Dalgan on October 23, 2011 at 3:36 pm

      All movements start with only a few determined people.
      The same was said of the Civil Rights marchers in the 1960s.
      And the Anti Vietnan war movements in the 1970s.
      You only need to look up your history to see how small groups of dedicated people can change the world.

      • Frank on November 4, 2011 at 11:16 am

        Yep. And the same could be said about Bolshevism, Fascism, post-WWII Eastern Bloc communism, ultra-nationalisms and an array of other violent movements responsible for turning the 20th century into world history’s bloodiest.

  20. Holly on October 21, 2011 at 12:18 am

    Hello,
    I’ve made a sign but I’m not sure if it is appropriate and or I’ll get arrested for offensive language.

    Ludicrous!

    It reads “F$CK THE $YSTEM, With Love”, just wanted to add my own personal touch to this empowering movement.

    any advice for the ignorant?

    • OscarSierra on October 22, 2011 at 9:26 am

      Very Helpful Holly, do you think anyone will see it as helpful ?

      Albeit straight to the point. Foul language and flags promoting Hezbollah, as is heckling people on their way to work, are truly counter-productive.

      As much as your sign/placard is I am sure well constructed and probably very colourful, the colourful language is probably not going to win you or anyone else any points.

      When you debate on the same terms as those whom you are arguing. When you place yourself in their league, then you have a chance.

      They will dance to your music, if they see it as poorly constructed, and played pathetically.

      If you want them to dance, give them something that works for them.

  21. Bob Santamaria on October 21, 2011 at 4:26 am

    I will take no guidance from such moral degenerates as I see outside my place of work in Martin Place.

    You do not speak for me. You are not part of the 99% of people who are clean, decent and have a work ethic.

    Will you survive the weekend?

    Bob

    • Mark J MacNamara on October 21, 2011 at 10:48 pm

      Fundamental reform in the way the public sector does business is desperately needed, the influence the media has on political process needs to be diluted, greed among the private sector elite needs to be checked, and political parties need a shift from an electoral toward a policy emphasis, but I don’t think this movement will have a role in any of it.

      • Tegan on October 25, 2011 at 3:16 pm

        Agreed!

        How about the people trying to get this movement going work their way into government so that they can have a hand in changing the way it operates in the long term?

    • Rufomagus on October 24, 2011 at 9:26 am

      What do they want? Listen and you’ll learn
      October 23, 2011

      Opinion

      Comments 2

      An Occupy Wall Street campaign demonstrator in Zuccotti Park.

      Listen up … an Occupy Wall Street campaign demonstrator in Zuccotti Park. Photo: Reuters

      OCCUPY Wall Street, a street rally of disenfranchised Americans in New York City’s financial district, is going off like a frog in a sock. According to Occupy Together, protests by the 99 per cent of the world’s people against the greed of the 1 per cent of the world’s richest citizens, who actually run the place, have spread to 1939 cities around the globe.

      Not surprisingly, the 1 per cent are fighting back. Given their disproportionate wealth, power and privilege compared with the demonstrators, their PR message is cutting through. It is that the dissidents are ridiculous and their message unclear.

      I can’t agree. I’ve been following the action, and tweeting about it, and have been impressed by the articulateness of those occupying Zuccotti Park and the sacrifices they are making (camping for weeks on the street is not a lot of fun).
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      I have been equally awed by the tenacity and clarity of purpose shown by the tent protesters in Israel, whose anger at being employed but still unable to make ends meet arguably kicked off the Occupy movement in July.

      Not to mention the democracy protesters who may have inspired them in what has become known as the Arab Spring.

      This may be because I’ve led grassroots movements before and know how hard it is to get diverse, and not always educated, strangers to agree on political goals and tactics. And the fact that, unlike some commenting on the movement, I’m not paid to provide a third-party endorsement of corporate Australia’s aspirations.

      Last week was Anti-Poverty Week, an Australian expansion of the UN’s International Anti-Poverty Day. The messages of Anti-Poverty Week are consistent with many from Occupy Wall Street. They include reminders that a fraction of the world’s population control most of the wealth, that a lack of affordable housing and inadequate income support contribute to the often invisible struggles of the working poor and that, while Australia is among the eight wealthiest countries, we are among the four most unequal.

      Here are some snippets from the declaration of occupation agreed on by the New York protesters that, taken together, can be understood as a manifesto of the principled and practical problems that result when democracy is for sale. I invite you to judge for yourself.

      ”As one people, united, we acknowledge the reality … that no true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power. We come to you at a time when corporations – which place profit over people, self-interest over justice and oppression over equality – run our governments. We have peaceably assembled here … to let these facts be known.

      ”They have taken our houses through … illegal foreclosure … they have taken bailouts from taxpayers with impunity and continue to give executives exorbitant bonuses.

      ”They have continuously sought to strip employees of the right to negotiate for better pay and safer working conditions …

      ”They determine economic policy, despite the catastrophic failures their policies continue to produce … join us and make your voices heard!”

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      The title of the article suggested that you were actually going to tell us what the protesters want. As usual we hear about corporate greed, ridiculous executive salaries/bonuses and the daily struggle faced by ‘the working poor’ but also as usual we hear no solutions, demands or plans to change things for the better.

      Until the protesters come up with some workable ideas all they are doing is wasting time and space while abusing those who are trying to go about their daily business, particularly if they’re wearing a suit and tie.

      And finally, they were evicted from Melbourne’s City Square not because they were protesting but because they were camping ILLEGALLY and REFUSED to leave so enough with the claims of police brutality and well done by the boys in blue.

      House – October 24, 2011, 9:02AM

      The problem isn’t that the mainstream can’t work out what the occupiers want. The problem is that they can, and it terrifies them. The idea that a large group of rats would voluntarily vacate the wheel, deposit themselves in full view of the other rats and then invite them to sit down and talk how their efforts to keep their own wheels turning are destroying the environment and allowing very big rats in very big wheels to corrupt their democratic processes.

      All over the Middle East and North Africa, people stood up, declared themselves to no longer simply be the “Oppressed Peoples of (Insert Country Here)” and demanded a redress of the grievances that led them down the path to accepting and wearing that label.

      The west has a much different problem. In that we don’t have some quasi-military nutjob strutting around a palace. What we do have, however, is an infrastructure of governance and commerce that treats people as though they’re an inconvenience. a cost centre, the usage of which, is to be minimised.

      It’s garbage. Humanity is not a cost centre. Our ecosystem is not a cost centre. Our democracy is not some annoyance that brilliant men in expensive suits need to find ways to circumvent. We, the people are very quietly and very politely demanding to no longer be treated like cattle at growth packing plant.

      Shaun | Adelaide – October 24, 2011, 9:10AM

      Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/what-do-they-want-listen-and-youll-learn-20111022-1mdae.html#ixzz1beBXgcBj

  22. Jmmy on October 21, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    hi,

    forgive my ignorance but i have one question.

    i know what you are protesting about but i want to know how you think we fix it? like exactly how do you think that we as a country can fix it? do we change the law, do we sack the government, do we increase tax on big companies?

    I’m just interested to hear some actual changes or suggestions not just a bunch of people whinging about inequality.

  23. yevrup on October 22, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Hi

    A friend and I want to fly down to Sydney to help your movement in whatever way we can. We both have degrees and read very widely and work in human services. I am interested in doing a speech on counter terrorism laws and protesting in Australia – a field I am writing a book on currently. We can do a camp out with you for a week or so and help with a book stall and food. Can you get back to me ASAP?

    0412 324 401

    Ask for John

  24. Jon Hand on October 23, 2011 at 10:42 am

    Hi all,

    My name is Jon Hand. I’m a 3rd-year university student, studying abroad from the States. I go to Pace Universty in NYC, which is only a few blocks away from Wall Street and Zucotti Park, where #OWS is taking place.

    I support the Global Occupation, but I’d like to speak up for free market capitalism, the only system in history to free citizens from tyranny, slavery and dictatorship for any significant period of time. Capitalism has been vilified and blamed for the GFC and the expanding wealth gap, however we do not and have not had capitalism for decades.

    What we have instead is an entirely new type of tyranny; one that gives us the illusion of prosperity and freedom while it slowly but persistently convinces us to give up our liberties in the name of national security and economic stability.

    What we have now is corporatism.

    Fiat currency, fractional reserve banking, derivatives trading, and soon carbon trading have all been detrimental to the prosperity of The People. However, it is not the fault of the corporations that these atrocities have come to be – the very purpose of a corporation’s existence is to profit, to grow, and to increase shareholder value indefinitely and forever. In fact, they have a legal obligation to do so.

    Despite what many Occupiers believe, this is not the result of too little regulation, but rather too much. Governments provide financial incentives for corporations to behave this way; they use our tax dollars to fund many projects (ethanol fuel, nuclear power, experimental weapons, etc…), or they allow the Federal Reserve to provide corporations with the money they need, virtually for free (the recent audit of the Fed discovered $16.2 trillion lent to major financial institutions at 0.25%).

    In so doing, the government removes private investment from these projects and financial instruments, and thus removes the perceived risk; bankers and industrial titans take on dangerous amount of risk since the money they are playing with was never theirs to begin with. Then, when all that risk finally catches up with them, rather than let the institutions fail the governments use taxpayer dollars to bail them out.

    Large, multinational corporations are rewarded for failure.

    The governments and corporations are not the only ones to blame; we must accept some responsibility, too. Despite the war against the 1%, we, the 99%, continue buy the products and use the services that create the wealth gap we aim to close. Beyond that, we continue to vote the same politicians into office who perpetuate the policies that allow this environment to exist.

    Here is what we must do to offer the next generation a life of prosperity:

    1. Abolish the Federal Reserve, fiat currency and fractional reserve banking. Return to the gold standard.
    2. Take corporate financing out of politics. Corporations are NOT people.
    3. Eliminate ALL subsidies.
    4. End ALL wars.
    5. End the WTO, IMF, World Bank, NAFTA and all other trade organizations. Open REAL free trade.
    6. Reinstate the Glass-Steagle Act.
    7. Boycott every company that received a government bailout. (See #9)
    8. Live within our means: Pay off our entire credit card balance every month or do not use it at all; put at least 10% of every paycheck into a savings account; and stop accumulating excessive amounts of debt (home loans, student loans) that we cannot afford to pay off.
    9. Buy local whenever possible. (This will make #7 easier)
    10. Manage your own financial investments.

    • OscarSierra on October 23, 2011 at 11:24 am

      Thank you for your post. I actually agree with a lot of your proposals. Libertarianism is what I feel is the best ideological approach, to provide reasonable benefits to real change, as it certainly removes the Left/Right sides of the coin out of the process and places what in Australia we would call “Having a fair go” in its place. I would appreciate your elucidation of *REAL Free Trade*. I believe in a *REAL Free Market* as opposed to *Free Trade*, as to me a *Free Market* allows us to place protectionism to ensure sovereignty and the right of citizens is placed above that of external countries, so in other words “If you can produce it at home, make it at home, build it at home, DO SO then SELL it as an EXPORT on the MARKET Freely. I also believe in a Smaller Limited Government with less impact on what we do as citizens so long as it does not infringe on the rights of others. Also returning to the Gold Standard is an imperative as Quantitative Easing 1, 2 & 3 have now just amount to numbers none of us would ever have a chance of counting up to in a lifetime. .

      I would appreciate it if you could also elucidate on the Glass-Steagle Act, for those of us here in Australia who have probably never heard of it.

      Overall an excellent Commentary Jon, it is a pity my in box is not full of more of it. Seems to me some elements of this movement have strayed over to the dark side, which is where the likes of G & S want the sheeple.

      The more radical you act, the more you play into the hands of those who would despise you for having a view that you say apparently represents them as part of the so called 99 percent.

      People want stability, not instability. If there is anything that the people of both our countries want, it is that single most important word “Stability” !

    • h n ducker on December 28, 2011 at 9:48 am

      I believe you are correct on everything. Any thoughts on how media/entertainment and gambling industries can be effectively harnessed?

      Also, the transfer of risk from corporations/governments to individuals requires close scrutiny.

  25. Thomas on October 23, 2011 at 1:24 pm

    How about you actually declare what you want? If you want to change the world, you need to know what you want to change first; you can’t just say “We’re fed up”. You people are just caught up in protesting for the sake of protesting. Go contribute something to society instead of fighting the rest of us. We are the 99%.

    • Cam on October 25, 2011 at 12:59 am

      I have to agree with this comment. Your explanation of yourself is dreadfully vague. It makes it hard for anyone to know whether they support you or not.

      I, myself, am “fed up with the government”, but from what I can gather, your gripes seem to be all about money. My gripes are primarily about rights and freedoms (or lack thereof).

      But for all we, the visitors to this website know, you might be fed up with the government because their supporting the yanks in afganistan, instead of the taliban.

      Please, state your case more clearly if your really interested in drumming up support. That’s what “About Us” pages are for.

      • OscarSierra on October 25, 2011 at 8:07 am

        In time all shall be revealed, certain events must take place before the true nature of the beast wilt be unleashed for all to see. Your point iis very valid, and it aligns within the purpose we seek.

        For now we will provide snippets of information, what we seek is most complex, must be distributed in a manner that all can understand. You see a truth, the most vald truth of all. The problem we face is both spreading that truth and the reason why we have to. The “Money Issue” as you put it undermines our constitution as a force that helps to limit our freedom. This is why we have had a concentration of ideas expressed apropos those corporations who would and do feed our politicians molasses in order to buy their favour. Councils including Clover Moores have been writhe in graft and corruption as has been exposed, this is not limited to the third tier, but extends beyond and above what you or I shall ever see. We want our country back, we do not need the like of Brigalow to undermine our property rights, at least that which we still own. Property is tangible, unlike the trillions of printed notes that extend promissory to nothing in true existance. This is closer to the point than you can imagine. Agenda 21 and ICLEI want your land, they want and they shall take, and you shall pay. Sustainable Dvelopment is a weapon deigned to undermine your freedom, and enslave you to a vertical sprawl. These things are complex, and the people will take a whle to comprehend the truth. When they do a herd of voices will combine on mass everywhere. The “About Us” page requires a little work, it was placed up in haste by our web master whilst we were in talks. He put this page up over night, I apologise for its incompleteness, when we have time it will be corrected. Some of us have jobs and responsibilities and families to feed, so we are a little behind schedule as talks are still proceeding. I wish you well. But know the fifth column has arrived.

        • Dushka on October 25, 2011 at 1:31 pm

          Having come from a socialist country, I know all this means is a change of the noses in the trough.

          You can’t fight human nature, and there are always going to be those who know instinctively how to exploit a system, and those who are willing to be exploited.

          Rather than trying to boil the ocean, maybe all we need to demand is *true* accountability in government, and a back-to-grass-roots approach.

          For a start, our elected officials should be required to observe the same professional standards many of us are held to every day in our private sector jobs. With the same consequences – breach equals dismissal, not in 4 years, but as a direct result of the breach.

          That would include wasting public funds, and saying one thing to win office then doing the polar opposite.

          Some say that would slow government down.

          Looking at the legion of instances where our elected officials have sold out this country and her people, is “slow and accountable” a bad thing?

          • OscarSierra on October 25, 2011 at 10:15 pm

            Bingo ! :)

  26. Dave on October 24, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    Occupy a Job.

  27. Really? on October 24, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    On a median basis, Australians are the richest people in the world. On an average basis, second richest to Switzerland. Australians, on average, are 4 times richer than citizens of the U.S., and the percentage of the population with over $100,000 of assets is over eight times the world average. 4% of the world’s millionaires are Australian. That’s roughly one in every 20 people. We have one of the highest living standards in the world and a high minimum wage. The average wage in Australia is around $96k a year. The government subsidises our university education, and unlike a lot of other countries, we do not have to put our hands in our pockets to get an education. Instead we get an interest-free loan, which we only have to pay back if and when we earn over a certain amount of money each year, and even then it comes out of our pay before taxes. Australia has universal health care. We can see a doctor for free, we can go to hospital for free. At the moment, we have a relatively low unemployment rate of 5.2% and there are still hundreds of thousands of jobs available – in fact, we’re in the middle of a skills shortage. Those who are unemployed and willing to undertake training will have well-paying jobs thrown at their feet.

    In the United States, these things are not a reality, and that is why people are protesting. Because they have a 99%

    Australia does not have a 99%. We are not the USA. Realistically, Australians calling themselves the 99% have made a mockery of the original concept, and that, in itself, is disgusting.

    • Cam on October 25, 2011 at 10:09 pm

      I won’t say that the “skills shortage” the government keeps telling us about doesn’t exist. But I will say that I have personally seen no evidence of it and, as a matter of fact, seen a dreadful amount of evidence to the contrary.

      As you say, “Those who are unemployed and willing to undertake training will have well-paying jobs thrown at their feet.” Which, I must admit, is a big part of my main gripe with the money-driven society. The masses are selling their souls for cash and they console themselves/justify this by saying “Yeah, but it’s a hell of a lot of cash.” Like what their giving up isn’t precious, or can be brought back at some later date.

      And then there is the flip side of this problem – the thousands of good-hearted people who *don’t* undertake training, either because they bravely hold true to their own characters, or because they aren’t even aloud to take the training because they are “inelligable.” (read “not smart enough” as decreed by the powers that be). They are left to waste away in obscurity for the most basic levels of pay, unable to enjoy their own railroaded lives, the exploits of their fellow incompetants who are likewise blocked out of so many jobs, or even the shallow material comforts enjoyed by those who submit to the brainiac regime.

      Australia might be rich in terms of gizmos in our pockets, spacious backyards and HDTVs, but we are poor in *quality* of life. And we will be until the brainiac regime’s power is reduced. Of course, there are legal changes that need to be made to accomplish this. But maybe a key step in accomplishing that would be to change the way money is used in the workforce.

      Note, I just said “maybe”, not “certainly”.

      • Really? on October 26, 2011 at 10:33 pm

        Poor quality of life? Tell that to the 105 countries who rank below us in the Quality of Life index.

        • Cam on October 27, 2011 at 5:03 am

          I wasn’t speaking comparitavely. Forgive me for not being specific. I was speaking generally. For all I know there isn’t a country on Earth where there’s worthwhile quality of life. Though I suspect this isn’t the case.

          I wasn’t talking about striving to be better than other countries. I was talking about being worthwhile overall.

        • Cam on October 27, 2011 at 5:07 am

          BTW, there are a few points regarding the survey categories of that index you mention that make me doubt it’s reliability.

          • Really? on November 3, 2011 at 11:25 am

            It’s okay, you’re allowed to be ignorant. :)

  28. matt on October 25, 2011 at 12:16 am

    The occupy movement needs a clear roles defined asap.. it shouldn’t be too general cause the media and the public will just then consider it to be the rantings of far left uni, unemployed uni students with nothing better to do.. and thats exactly what the far right want.. for it to all fall apart.
    It is more then that and with momentum we have with the vulnerability post GFC at the moment we must move fast:
    1) I think the movement should look to ensuring we maintain a balance of good government which maintains tighter regulation on the financial system to prevent another GFC.
    2) Drawing attention to how excessive pay of CEO’s of multinationals and how it now reflects the new ultra capatilist unbalanced movement .
    3) The more attention big corporations pay to shareholders then to supporting and contributing to the communities & countries which they are based (the need to give back).
    4)The dangerous situations whereby large multinationals monopolise the control food supplies worldwide destroying local producers (Tesco, Coles, Woolworths,M&S, ).
    5)the danger of speculative trading and the inability and weakness of our financial systems in the age of online trading where market confidence in country can collapse in amatter of an hours .
    5) We are entirely vulnerable to these powerful speculators – they are the ones calling the shots behind the scene moving money between countries and this can even bring down governments – this must not be allowed to happen again. No ones knows if we can servive another GFC if that happens everyone will lose all confidence in capitalism – attention must be brought to this vulnerable financial situation.
    We need checks and balances in place – no and end to capitalism but a healther, fairer and balanced model – this is what occupy sydney needs to be about.

  29. Wolfgang on October 25, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Those of you calling for socialist revolution… careful what you wish for… Greed corrupts every “system” even Anarchy

  30. kissma-ria on October 26, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    The only language corporations understand well is supply and demand. The quicker we the consumer can understand this the quicker we will see change..and there isn’t a better time than Christmas to stop over consumption.

    Also, the Occupy movement needs to be more specific with their messages, banners and leaflets. Most people are sheep with an attention span of 4 secs. It’s a shame that more aren’t joining in the protest, but no one is hungry enough, not yet at least.

    My message would read ‘Give your Christmas dollar to aid overseas not Myer. your loved ones will still love you next year’

    • OscarSierra on October 28, 2011 at 1:52 am

      How about going down to a shelter or soup kitchen in your own city and helping out or donating to a charity like Bear Cottage or Legacy or Police Legacy, or Youth Focus or buy a homeless person down at Woollloomooloo or elsewhere a feed or maybe some new clothes . We have enough problems in our own cities and country that could do with a little helping out rather then potentially feeding cash to war lords in other countries. These people are our 99% and our taxes that end up in Foreign Aide where half the time it never gets to the people on the ground are already given to those elsewhere. How about we fix our own back yard first? If you choose to send cash overseas that is a noble endeavor however why do we always turn a blind eye at what is staring us in the face. I am not picking on you for your words and I agree people everywhere are in need of help, but we have the ability to directly and efficiently help out an Aussie in need. So yes I agree with your sentiment, and it is an awesome idea.

  31. Davina on October 27, 2011 at 7:02 am

    I would like to make a brief suggestion.

    We should be doing the next Occupy not on the City streets, but in front of parliament.

    Personally, it’s a longer track for City people such as myself, however wouldn’t it be of greater relevance & have more of an impact if we are showing our strength next to the people who we need it to be heard by?

    Idk, just a suggestion.

  32. Linda on October 29, 2011 at 10:03 am

    How about working to end sexual violence, gendered pay inequality, gendered division of domestic labour, human trafficking, sex slavery, child brides etc. Free women from the terror of violence and put more resources in women’s hands and the communities of those women improve greatly, as has been demonstrated time and time again.

  33. PETER on October 31, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    have you heard of an Australian gentlemen named Trevor Rowe ?
    He heads Rothchild Australia (“the boutique bank”),was the chancellor of Bond University and also on the board of the Federal Government’s Future Superfund and Chair of Queensland Investment Corporation and was responsible for selling many assets in Australia through Rothchild Bank whilst previously being adviser to John Howard and Anna Bligh (Premier of Queensland) .
    Now if you had the time to read these articles please:

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-adviser-they-didnt-have-to-have-20090722-dtk5.html

    http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/rowe-quit-weeks-before-corruption-storm-bligh-20090731-e4a7.html

    Why is someone in the game of advising and selling Australia’s assets working for Rothchild. Because thats what they specialise in.
    If you could please read the section on Australia and Mortgage Debenture from the Rothchild Group’s own site:
    http://www.rothschild.com/australia/
    you may get a better picture of how involved they are with major transactions in Australia. Interesting enough you will see Royal Dutch Shell along with Petro China listed. A former senior adviser of Royal Dutch Shell – Catherine Tanna – is now a member of the RESERVE BANK OF AUSTRALIA and she is also the director of QGC (a gas company which is owned by British Gas) a major coal seam gas company. She is also a solicitor in England and Australia.

    Although it may look like Im trying to create my own image of whats going on in Australia, realistically I like to collect little pieces of something dubious. I mean it is ok to question isnt it?

  34. Who on November 1, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    To keep it simple we must look at those affected by neoliberal economic rationalisation policies of recent decades that still support the political structure that feeds it. Its amazing how many people in the area I live in who’s lives are directly affected by the greed of global economic policy but are still happy to be a parody of the likes of Alan Jones. It’s like Neoliberal evangelism, your tything just bipasses you and goes directly to the rich and powerful. The scary thing is people beleive it. If we are looking at gross misconduct by the powerful in this great land of opportunity?? perhaps we should also be taking action in regards to the absence of any ethical codes for commercial radio journalists. Surely there classification as entertainers should be determined by those poor soles who listen to them ….. there are plenty of parrots down my way (Sutherland!!!)

  35. Anna on November 2, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    You know, just maybe you oughta think about the whole “we already have everything this movement stands for, yes things could be better so we’re gonna protest for that instead of actively working for change within the community” stance. Just sayin.

  36. Max on November 3, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    You are NOT the 99%. Piss off, get an education, get a job and work hard like the rest of us.
    You’re a bunch of bloody parasites and we don’t want you camping out in our public spaces.

    Yours sincerely,
    The real 99%

  37. c on November 4, 2011 at 2:52 am

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    Establish secure polling software.

  38. Kate on November 9, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    Pray, who are you and what exactly are you protesting?

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